Those videos are by some of the best evangelical minds out there. I think one of the videos you probably didn’t watch, made that very clear. But the doctrine is the doctrine of Paul that was taught by Paul as well as Augustine and what most of the reformers embraced. I will credit him at least he gave effort to the conversation. Starman is the one that made it all about Calvin, by making false statements about him being a murder of Michael S and acting as if we worship Calvin. How can you learn from those that aren’t able to understand, much less teach? Zguy is taking his schooling and personal beliefs and trying to engage in intelligent conversation that challenges one beliefs. I won’t attack you like you did me, but I would encourage you read Paul again. To do all that in him lies to prevent his hearers from doing it, by showing them the sin and folly thereof and that the more earnestly and diligently, if they have been accustomed so to do? perhaps encouraged therein by his own example!įrom the Thomas Jackson edition of The Works of John Wesley, 1872.Ĭlick to expand.Hold on, stop drop and roll.įirst off, saying they are unbiblical is your opinion and you have not given any strong defense for them or a convincing argument. To do all that in him lies to prevent his hearers from doing it, by showing them the sin and folly of it? And is it not equally the duty of every Calvinist Preacher, First, never in public or in private, in preaching or in conversation, to use the word Arminian as a term of reproach? Secondly. One word more: Is it not the duty of every Arminian Preacher, First, never, in public or in private, to use the word Calvinist as a term of reproach seeing it is neither better nor worse than calling names? - a practice no more consistent with good sense or good manners, than it is with Christianity. Only the former hold absolute predestination the latter, conditional.ġ2. Many Calvinists are pious, learned, sensible men and so are many Arminians. John Calvin was a pious, learned, sensible man and so was James Harmens.
And Arminians have as much right to be angry at Calvinists, as Calvinists have to be angry at Arminians. And how can any man know what Arminius held, who has never read one page of his writings? Let no man bawl against Arminians, till he knows what the term means and then he will know that Arminians and Calvinists are just upon a level. Away, then, with all ambiguity! Away with all expressions which only puzzle the cause! Let honest men speak out, and not play with hard words which they do not understand.
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